And you find yourself in a situation where you've got to do something that's hard. Hey wait! Have you ever thought about killing someone? They will spare his son if he fesses up and- and tells them what they need to know. Wow. My students are murderers.". After all he knows what he can stand. He loves the fatherland, and he loves Germany. This is Jeff Jensen, and he's a reporter in LA. Okay, so I heard this one from this guy named David-. Finally, acknowledging, yeah, that's true. Gary is dancing around this topic. This is what totally pulled me into this story, the prods. But there's a fellow. Podcast Transcripts of Radiolab Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts What Up Holmes? At least not with a tremendous amount of energy. I can't quite place him. But every time the experimenter pulled out the fourth prod And this was confirmed when the experiment was redone in 2006; total disobedience. But Haber saw it as a wonderful success and wished- wished that the Germans had been better prepared to exploit it because he felt like they really could have made a terrific advance if they had had more confidence. James Shapiro, Professor of English at Columbia University. Radiolab is supported by Casper. That's one of the things we have to know and that's why it's okay to let out. Accuracy and availability may vary. ", In Titus Andronicus, there's a character by the name of-, There's a moment in the play when Aaron gets up on stage, looks at the audience and says, "Let me just tell you the kinds of things I've been up to recently. And I designed a little, um, questionnaire where I simply ask the students, you know, "Have you ever thought about killing someone?" I do not stand alone. "I need to kill because of that." Science. I knew what he was capable of, so I suggested that we go out for a walk. Yes. You know, you're not the first person that's ever done this. When you needed to stop for breath, your hand ran light and steady. I dated her several times a year. And while David's sitting in the bedroom with this friend, the guy looks up at him and he says-, Like, through his teeth. Reviews . That guy yelling of course was an actor and the shocks weren't real, but the questions in the air at the time were very real. Now you're saying actually that you could read that, that very dark fact, as being actually evidence of something quite- quite noble. That was not a real shock. I got to tell you, um, I'm not totally comfortable that you are providing all the information about-. You can find out more information about all those guys on our website, radiolab.org. What did you remember since we last talked [inaudible 00:57:19]? ", "Set deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench, you quench with their tears. Listen Infective Heredity. Equal Housing lender licensed in all 50 states. That was just for those of you haven't heard it yet, this is a kind of a rush through a- through sex reproduction. I'm Jad Abumrad. The leaves would just sort of shrivel, and the grass was turning to the color of metal. ", Yeah, we just need a whole lot more of one simple-. Uh, so what happened to David that night with his friend got him really curious about murder and badness and all these things we're thinking about. Yes, it's awesome, thank you, Ben. When you call someone then you're kind of done with them. But he organizes soldiers, he organizes whole gas units. That he asked Gary, there was a lot of questions he was asking. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. But in all of these other scenarios, they don't. We begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and 84% of women, have fantasized about killing someone. In any case-. But the generals were not all that convinced. The reason why he's telling all this stuff is because he has cut a deal. Tell us anything about [inaudible 00:58:03]-. I don't know, I can't help but feel bad for the guy. Now there's a footnote to this that is very strange. He's bald. The same year that Adolf Eichmann goes on trial for Nazi war crimes. That's one of the things that we need to know. I liked her. These violent delights tienen fin violento. It's called Too Much Information. Obviously no need to be alarmed, that was not a real shot. This is RadioLab. Which is a- a fairly small, you know, a small sort of town. Jul 28, 2018 And he said, "Look, this is what you're going to do is Of course, you don't want to do this. Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. Now, as we sort of know in life, lots of things that we if they're worthwhile doing, they're not always easy. This was a moment when human cruelty was on trial, quite literally. He says, "Well, we can drive those enemy soldiers out of trenches with gas. Transcripts and recorded audio may be available for many of the programs you hear on WNYC. However, that leaves behind 20 million Germans. Then a few months later, he started calling me trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. And he says, "Can I come over and sleep on your couch? And so, Gary starts going through this narrative of what he did to Carol. And give up the few details that they really needed to link him certifiably to all his crimes. And the infinity of gray spaces in between. It immediately became apparent that there was going to be difficulties. So, who is- who is this guy right here? There's a pause and my father just says. We have kids in the- in the room. And now that we're sort of just on the other side of that. He didn't really want to cop to everything that he did. He was doing his great science work right around the turn of the 20th century; so right around 1900. We'll be right back [inaudible 00:31:42], let's just finish this series. Our staff includes Simon Adler, Maggie Bartholomew, Becca Bressler, Rachael Cusick, David Gebel, Ethel Hepti, Tracy Hunt, Matt Kielty, the lovely Robert Krulwich, Annie McEwen, Latif Nassar, Malissa O'Donnell, Adrian Wack, Pat Walters, and Molly Webster. A lot of them are really positive even though they've just been told that they were duped. But over the entire ocean, there's a lot of gold dissolved into the sea. Direct your voice toward that microphone in the room [inaudible 00:20:33]-, So they sit down in the chair thinking, "Wow, this is really important. He actually was very humiliated, uh, that Germany had lost. [inaudible 00:59:42] Christensen. I'm not going to go ahead with it. And you tell us, "Actually, you know under some circumstances, we don't do the bad thing we're told to do because, here's another flip, we don't have to be told. The fourth product is-. But did it, publicly, in front of her friends. And then he seemed fine. Enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. My dorsal hair stood up when I read the end of this. Pince-nez, okay. And invited me over. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. They arrest Gary Le- Leon Ridgeway. Obviously no need to be alarmed. I'll go along with this.". Yeah. Walked in and asked his wife where this friend of mine was, and she got a disgusted look on her face, and said that he was up in the bedroom. It comes to us from our reporter, Aaron Scott. He recruited a bunch of subjects-. Yet you go into this anyway, knowing full well that it could-, "That is true. Although, I don't know if that's the right word for this next thing 'cause it's sort of more complicated. even past when they were screaming in pain. And if they didn't go on, if they resisted, the experimenter would break out prod number two. Yeah (laughs). Whatever it is. But if you think that's the right thing, if you think that science is worth pursuing you say, "Okay, I'll go along with this.". There's you, and there's two other participants. Does he- is he saying what I think he's saying? We don't exactly know why. "I need to kill because of that." Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. Accuracy and availability may vary. It's okay to admit this. Do you leave this experiment in a light mood or in a dark mood? Wore a little, um, uh, pince-nez? His was the first generation when a young Jewish boy could truly imagine that he could just be a regular part of that society. For when the subjects didn't want to continue? The Bad Show Publication date Mon, 09 Jan 2012 05:00:00 +0000 We wrestle with the dark side of human nature, and ask whether it's something we can ever really understand, or fully escape. That's where they're heading towards. I'll give you bad. You're bad." Yeah, me too. This is sort of chilling comparison, which is a speed that Himmler gave to the SS, some SS leaders, when they were, uh, about to commit a range of atrocities. He has a pot belly. Hi, this is Lauren from Winnipeg. I was just astonished. And, "Well why the rage?" Carries electric shocks. And this is necessary in order to advance our noble cause.". In other words, nitrogen has really strong attachments to itself. The one that everybody knows, the so called baseline. And the way I killed her, I cared for her because I dated her for [inaudible 01:01:43]. After all, he knows what he can stand. This next part's a little graphic. Yeah. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of someone halfway across the world. In 1962 Stanley Milgram shocked the world with his study on obedience. Okay. Right. Mm-hmm (affirmative). Meaning, I mean, what- what- any idea what was in his mind? And I think what we want out of the why is meaning. And that tonnages then moves into our food source, our food source then moves into our bodies, and the rough statistics are that half of each of our bodies contains nitrogen from the Haber process. She was good to- she was good to me. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter-, Killed her. Thank you to Jim Shapiro, whose most recent book is called Contested Will. She just burst my eardrums (laughs). I'm Robert Krulwich. And if they still were resisting or struggling, they'd get prod number three. Because this room's echo-y. They're engaged with the task. I got to tell you, I'm not totally comfortable that you're providing all of the information [inaudible 00:57:52]-. "This was a moment in German history," he says, "When Jews had a decent amount of freedom.". Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. Radiolab is supported by Audible. He has such great faith in me." No. You're telling us all this. Gary says, "I needed to kill." So the subjects seem willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say, "It's an order.". Because it's like we started with this experiment that we all see as evidence of humans' latent capacity for evil. Dan Charles, Sam Keen, Latif Nasser, Fred Koffman and Fritz Stern. Look. Enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. Now the volunteer couldn't see the guy he was shocking, but he'd definitely hear him. Uh, we ask "Who did you think about killing?" Our thanks to Ben Walker, whose podcast he has a podcast and it's a good one. So in the Milgram case. He did this experiment a bunch of times in a bunch of different ways. Now that's important, it's very important. Stanley Milgram took electric shock very seriously. You've touched me. And he finds her actually still alive, with the life about to run out of her. The thing is that I do have a new boyfriend, but my ex-boyfriend doesn't know that yet, and I'm terrified that he'll do what he says. Meaning to life to reveal itself in a way that restores order and gives us hope that all of this isn't just meaningless chaos. Literally disappeared for six months, and didn't tell anyone where she was because she was terrified that he was going to kill her. And, you know, it's a craft, but it's a craft with consequences. Robert, I'm going to give you this piece of paper here. The subjects range in occupation from corporation presidents to good [inaudible 00:12:29] and plumbers. And so he says that and you're like, "Okay, yes come over now. He says, "Well, we can drive those enemy soldiers out of trenches with gas.". Search metadata Search text contents Search TV news captions Search radio transcripts Search archived web sites Advanced Search. And even though, in the end, they got him to confess to these 49 murders, they never really get any closer to an answer than this first one. In a rage, uh, how? That's Fritz Haber's wife. The subjects are 40 males between the ages of 20 and 50. Meanwhile later that night, the other side of town. Leaving his son alone with his dead mother. He could do anything. Because if you ask university undergraduates, "What does the Milgram studies show?" I knew what he was capable of, so I suggested that we go out for a walk and I, basically, spent the next half hour walking around with him trying to cool him off. It's a graphic or an illustrated novel. And then, he just trails off. Gary starts going through this narrative of what he did to Carol. If those two participants refused to go on. So, they sit down in the chair thinking, "Wow. The good Iagos make you want to shower the minute you leave the theater. Episode Discussion: The Bad Show. Thanks. He even schemes against his own wife. And we end with the story of a man who chased one of the most prolific serial killers in US history, then got a chance to ask him the question that had haunted him for years: why? I got it in front of me, I've just got the data from the Milgram study. What my father and his colleagues know is that something was done to these bodies. Then he goes and, you know, and celebrates that. And he said, to start, "You want to know about bad? And my father was recruited to the task force. I can't quite place him-. ", Only 10 percent, under those circumstances, go on. ", Um, but Haber just kind of ignored her and-, He actually threw a dinner party in celebration-. You know, just because of a mathematical summing up. Would change where the shocker and the shock-ee sat. You- I mean, I'm not suggesting one should, but I'm just saying there is a sense in which these people are prepared to do something that's very painful to them and to someone else because they want to promote science. Well, Sam, what happened to this guy after World War I? It was actually a crushing blow for- for him. And there is no doubt that today's plants and animals carry the genetic legacy of ancestors who fought fiercely to survive and reproduce. And that we're not going to be shocked with anything-. They're engaged with the test, they're trying to be good participants. RadioLab is supported, in part, by the National Science Foundation, and the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. Now, Haber was Jewish, but because he had served in World War I-. We'll be right back. You need to admit this. We've got to know now. As we continue listening to the Bad Show on human nature in our neighbors and ourselves, check out the Wave, which we mirrors the natural shape of your body, or the Casper mattress with zone support for your hips and shoulders for better alignment. This actually brings us to our first top of the hour, so just to set it up, Robert, I'm going to give you this piece of paper here. Ear drums, God. He was always smoking his Virginian cigars. And there behind the German lines is-. And one evening, they were throwing a party and invited me over. He- he loves the fatherland and he loves Germany. Then you're kind of done with them. Yeah, members of his extended family did; certainly friends of his did. Especially when it came to one particular fact. And you know there's nothing a closet full of clothes to help balance that out. And I basically spent the next half hour walking around with him trying to cool him off. Um, this is one of the things that's, uh, this was one of the things that's sparked my interest in the topic of murder. Sixty-five percent-, To shock their fellow citizens, over and over again-. And, like, it kind of, like, hurt his feelings. Maybe this is the time they tell them to go brush their teeth or something. One that applies smart technologies at scale with purpose and expertise; not just for some, but for all. Let's expect more from technology, let's put smart to work, visit ibm.com/smart to learn more. To find page after page of yeses. And she takes a service revolver-. Could you just tell me the little story that you begin your book with? Especially when it came to one particular fact. These are people who are incredibly noble, they are. We'll be right back to Haber, but wait- wait. A hero. And so, I went up to the bedroom and he was, you know, in a rage. But the questions in the air, at the time, were very real. You can be sure of your purchase with Casper's 100 night risk-free sleep on it trial. Fat- commit them to memory? Trivalent. So, basically at 6:00 pm at April 22nd. Okay. And, uh, I heard about him from science writer Sam Keen. And when you stick a seed, like a wheat seed in the ground. Terms and conditions apply. That's radio producer Ben Walker, he'll be our guide for this segment. He won't answer. When you call someone, "Evil." Around this same time, officials in the US government are calling him a war criminal. He, ultimately, spent 17 years searching for this man. Uh, she, uh, expressed disapproval about his, um, clothing choices. As soon as it did, soldiers began to convulse. He's a man adrift. With help from Adam Cole, Rachel James, and Matt [Kielty 01:07:25]. I think I call it pince-nez, so I'm not sure. If the experimenter is not a scientist, but is an ordinary man. Yes. I- horrified is- I was- I was pretty stunned. Of course, nobody wants to be killing other people; we realize this is hard work. Well that's to [inaudible 00:19:32], just cut it out. She had something else on her mind. And I used to socialize with him and his wife. But in a famous incident, one of England's leading scientists refuses to shake his hand. Now we don't exactly know why, there are hints of reasons that maybe he thinks Othello's sleeping with his wife; we're not sure. Was he trying to make a commentary, and so was he grappling with something? Um, with a black belt in karate. It immediately became apparent that there was going to be difficulties. If this is the singular moment in Shakespeare where he gives you un-understandably evil man. It is a, the- the critical- the critical force prod. And I just sat at my desk and started reading these. They brought in psychiatrists and forensic psychologists to try to get an answer. We, as- as onlookers to this study, we have this kind of god-like, uh, sort of vision of, like, well of course what they're doing is wrong. I- I know it was more than [inaudible 00:59:44]. More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org. And he goes home for a few days a hero. This is just somebody who's performing brain surgery without anesthesia on other people. Eugene [inaudible 01:07:32], Sierra Hahn, and everyone in the manuscript and archives department at the Yale University Library. 65%-, to shock their fellow citizens over and over again-. In that, "Why?" But if you put two experimenters in the room, and-. And if they still were resisting or struggling, they'd get proud number three. Let's just finish this. So, right around 1900. He just kind of went crazy. This was one of the bloodiest arenas on the, uh, Western front. And so, 1918 Fritz Haber gets a Nobel Prize, but this is why he's such an interesting guy. Radiolab is supported, in part, by the National Science Foundation, and by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science, technology in the modern world. Telling a friend he felt like he'd lost his homeland. As far as I know, I don't know if I did or not. No, but there's part of me says, "You know, here's a guy who just wanted to do everything better than had ever been done before." Haber finds himself in a little town in Belgium called-. Some people describe it as a cloud, and then others describe it as this kind of 15 foot wall kind of hugging the land, and it's just sort of approaching. I'll give you bad. And not just yeses. You wouldn't though. There's lots and lots of lessons here, but one is I think, you know, when you are enjoying to do something for the greater good, maybe ask yourself the question, what is greater and what is good? And that's all the difference in the world. Like, is that something that's universal? And then it was several hours later, in the middle of the night, that I got the call. She says, "What happened today?" Yeah. My dad said, "I don't want to talk about it." Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. He's such a puzzle to me. And he believed it. Was it nice day, nice sky, nice job, or nice chair? In 1962, Stanley Milgram shocked the world with his study on obedience. The authoritative record of New York Public Radios programming is the audio record. I've been thinking about him for the better part of a year as you know. 2012-06-22 . Gary said, "I needed to kill them," they go, "Why?" So, my father and the other interviewer in that room that morning, Detective John Natson, they start using a line of, uh, uh, a tact of, uh, uh, of interviewing him that was very-. As we continue listening to the Bad Show episode on human nature, our neighbors and ourselves, check out the Blank Slate by Steven Pinker available on Audible. That the earth couldn't support this many people. A liquid. Even when they go along with the experiment-. Let me just get that out. All rights reserved. He gets promoted to the rank of captain-. So you ask like, "Why do people do bad things?". Now we don't actually know if he threw a party. And every scenario produced a different result. He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. So if you have kids in the room, maybe this is a time to tell them to go brush their teeth or something. Certainly friends of his did. But- but there's part of me that says, you know, here's a guy who just wanted to do everything better than had ever been done before. And this particular story, it comes from a book that David wrote. He has a podcast. Yep, women participants, he had an experimenter who wasn't a scientist, but was a member of the general public. Take one. Cruelty, violence, badness. Um, I got a little, uh, I- my- this is my dorsal hair stood up when I read the end of this. Unusually so in those times. But in all of these other scenarios, they don't. Birds would just fall from the air. So, every day they would bring him into this conference room. Then he left some space at the bottom for them to elaborate if they said yes. I'm not saying a word. And to make the problems even more annoying. But, you know, over the entire ocean there's a lot of gold dissolved into the sea. He said, "Look, this is what you're going to do is of course you don't want to do this. But I needed to kill her because of that. We take a look at one particular fantasy lurking behind these numbers, and wonder what this shadow world might tell us about ourselves and our neighbors. with Lulu Miller, and Latif Nasser. So every day, they would bring them into this conference room-, This is a continuation of an interview with Gary Leon Ridgeway-. "Do you think that more studies of this sort should be carried out?" He could have never imagined that. Just push the button that corresponds to the right word. That's my thing and that's where I'm going to stand on it. Which is a fairly small-ish sort of town, and so does Clara. comment. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. And when nitrogen and hydrogen bond together, the thing you get-. "Well why can't you deal with it in a normal way?". It's all right. The experiment requires that we continue. And he is basically homeless at this point. All rights reserved. There's something deeply, deeply wounding, stressing, upsetting at the thought that he had anything to do with zyklon B; but he did. That's my opinion that's where I'm going to stand on it. Go on please. So Stanley Milgram actually begins these experiments the same year that Adolf Eichmann goes on trial for Nazi war crimes. Then the executioner castrates you, cuts you open, and takes out your internal organs, and then separate your head; which is put on a post. And Hitler takes over. Then he goes and celebrates that, and then walks away from his child and his wife dead in the garden and says, "More of that please.". Just trying to imagine that. And as it happens, my father has very vivid memories of investigating the Carol Christensen murder. My name's Benjamin Walker and here are some RadioLab credits. Hey, it's Fred Kaufman, I'm calling to read the credits; here we go. I think you got to answer it with him, right? Very distinctive looking man. Just to put that into context and to bring a few other of our storytellers in. Bread from the air was the phrase 'cause Haber had figured out a way to take nitrogen from the air, put it into the barren ground, and grow wheat. We just got to get ov- get out of it where-. He felt publicly humiliated. So during World War I, Haber's Institute had developed a formulation of insect killing gas called zyklon. They're, supposedly, chums but General Othello has no idea that that Iago-. Now, of course, you could find some nitrogen out in the world. They continued shocking their corpses. Suddenly I'm thinking this is actually a darker interpretation-. So, how do you feel about him now? Today's date is, uh, June 17th. Is that how you say that thing-. They're not doing something because they have to, they're doing it because they think they ought to. Continuing using the last switch on the board please. Hundreds of them were falling to the ground. Right? We'll basically bring it to the front, and when the wind is right, we'll just spray it. Only then does God speak up and kind of say like, "You're going to question me? Um, "Demand me nothing. You know, on the other hand, I mean, if you look at the grand calculus, people he's he-helped or fed versus people he's killed, I mean, he's got fed billions of people, I don't know that you could entirely call him bad. So, here's the interesting thing. A lot of them are like, "This is not how you fight a war.". Yeah, well. He would say over and over again. But when he gets there, he has to contend with his wife, Clara Immerwahr. The killer seemed to have placed the bodies as if they were mannequins. Yes, and he did too. And in January of 1984, the Green River Task Force was formed, and my father was recruited to the task force. He knew about it. This episode of Radiolab, we wrestle with the dark side of human nature, and ask whether it's something we can ever really understand, or fully escape. Here it goes. You know, "I just want to kill her. It's a graphic or an illustrated novel. Direct your voice to the microphone in the room. It's a pretty big thing to miss (laughs) isn't it? 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