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I disagree. to other visible stars near Sirius as recognition of the invisible The Dogon also knew Sirius B was about the size of Earth and spun on its axis. However, doubts have been raised about the reliability of Griaule and Dieterlen's work on which The Sirius Mystery is based,[4][5] and alternative explanations have been proposed. The Nine became part of the UFO and New Age mythology and many claim to be in contact with them. The obviously advanced astronomical knowledge must have come from somewhere, but is it an ancient bequest or a modern graft? interesting that the Greek Sirius is Seirios.". the Sirius "Mystery". Skeptic Jason Colavito counts The Sirius Mystery among the body of works in a tradition of ancient astronaut ideas he believes were ultimately inspired by H. P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos.[13][14]. One problem with this idea is that Sirius B has been a white dwarf for at least tens of thousands of years. WebAccording to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. He was told that fishlike creatures called the Nommo had come to Earth from Sirius to civilizes its people. These same myths, Temple claims, identify a planet circling that star as the home of Nommo, an alien creature who founded the Dogon civilization. It seems that Temples ideas are still popular among practitioners of pseudoarcheology, as well as with the general public. They have a traditional belief in a heliocentric system and (In response, Temple has drawn up the ridiculous image of natives laborously hauling a giant instrument through the west African mud -- when in fact a four inch reflector would do just fine, and I once owned one that weighed about ten pounds including mount.) If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. Perhaps the source was Temple Precise maps at the NASA space photo interpretation lab in Houston list "Behdet" as an ancient name for modern Damanhur, located today at 31.03 degN, 30.28 degE, i.e., more than a hundred kilometers away from where Temple locates his "Behdet" at 31.50 degN, 31.23 degE. Seriously: The Dogon and Sirius? The Pleiades are sometimes mentioned, but this is not possible. sigui, held by the Dogon every sixty years. Some might argue that if there were a planet really close to Sirius A, it could be in a stable orbit. of their culture, came from Sirius -- which is at the crux of Temple's reconstruction? If so, I wonder why that passage was ever "worth pointing out" in the book in the first place. Temples Furthermore, there had been a Ridpath concludes that any information that resembles the facts about Sirius was probably ascertained by way of cultural contamination. One unproven aspect of the reported Dogon knowledge of the Sirius system is the assertion that the Dogon knew of another star in the Sirius system, Emme Ya, or "larger than Sirius B but lighter and dim in magnitude." 1999. But it seems that Griaule, a scientist, wanted to attribute to earlier civilisations more knowledge than they actually possessed. It is also the home of the brightest star in the night sky, Sirius A. He certainly did not have permission to use that statement as part of the promotion, I'11 just have to be even more careful hereafter.". "Legends of the Dogon: belief in a long-solved WebThe claims about the Dogons' astronomical knowledge have also been challenged. Concludes Sagan, "There are too many loopholes, too many alternate explanations for such a myth to provide reliable evidence of past extraterrestrial contact. As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. Hmm, The Cardiff Giant, one of the most celebrated hoaxes in American history, on display at the Farmers Museum in Cooperstown, NY. A recent newsletter from my local astronomy association still found the Dogon and their mysterious knowledge of Sirius B worth mentioning. The number "fifty" has great signifance in ancient myths. Am I getting too picky here? [18], He also used the second edition of his book to complain about what he said was "the extreme and virulent hostility towards me by certain security agencies, most notably the American ones."[19]. Because Sirius B moves from 8 to 31 AU distance from Sirius A, it is unlikely that planets orbiting Sirius A would have stable orbits. Here is an example of how hard it can be to critically examine the claims in the book. What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. The Sirius Mystery is a book written by Robert K. G. Temple (born Robert Kyle Grenville Temple in 1945) supporting the pseudoscientific[1] ancient astronauts hypothesis that intelligent extraterrestrial beings visited the Earth and made contact with humans in antiquity and prehistoric times. Its second, 1998, edition is called The Sirius Mystery: New Scientific Evidence of Alien Contact 5,000 Years Ago. If a European Clearly the Dogons (in common with many other cultures) were fascinated by Sirius, probably because its position in the sky was crucial to successful agriculture (it's the only star they have a name for.) Conversations With their knowledge without contact with an advanced technological The Dogon understanding of astronomy was comparatively modern but has several known misconceptions - it entirely lines up with the European understanding as of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, before the discovery of relativity. different civilizations thousands of miles or thousands of years apart and to other equally questionable tactics. With this, the Dogon mystery comes crashing down. Afrocentrists, on the other hand, claimed that the Dogon could see Read the January issue of Michael Shermers Scientific American column for free on michaelshermer.com: Kool-Aid Psychology: How optimism trumped realism in the positive-psychology movement. Temple considers alternative possibilities other than alien contact, such as a very ancient, advanced, and lost civilization that was behind the sudden appearance of advanced civilization in both Egypt and Sumer. Ancient astronauts entrepreneur Erich von Daniken endorses and adopts Temple's explanations in his latest book, Von Daniken's Proof. of course, no evidence for this special eyesight, nor for other equally Its appearance in the dawn sky over Egypt warned of the impending Nile floods and the summer's heat and marked the beginning of the Egyptian calendar. Temple claimed that the Dogon knew about two smaller stars that are closely related to Sirius Sirius B and Sirius C. The mystery was how they had obtained this knowledge, as these companion stars cannot be seen by the unaided eye. Temple claims that bas-reliefs of the Sumerian demigod Oannes, which depict a "fish man," prove Nommo, whom the author identifies as the ancestor of the Dogon Nommo myths, was an amphibious extraterrestrial. This proves that geodetic surveys of immense accuracy were thus practiced in ancient Egypt with a knowledge of the earth as a spherical body in space and projections upon it envisaged as part of the Sirius lore.". The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. [15] An apparent "third star" observed in the 1920s is now confirmed as a background object,[16] something previously suggested by Holberg in 2007: Benest and Duvent found that stable orbits with a period of up to six years exist around Sirius A. Temples response to criticism has so far been evasive. by Philip Coppens. Sirius Contents [ hide] 1 The Secret Knowledge And Wisdom Of The Dogon Tribe 2 Intricate Knowledge Of The Sirius Star System? Temple's impressive research was encouraged by noted futurist Arthur C, Clarke (although Clarke now prefers the "modern influence" hypothesis). The inspiration for this claim was a star map produced by Betty Hill while under hypnosis. The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. Also if it was seeded by westerners how is the Dogon and surrounding tribes have a fully developed culture and religion structure centered around Sirius going back for hundreds of years? ), many debunked issues keep rising from the dead like vampires springing from their tombs. September 1976 saw The Sirius mystery, though, remains of great interest to many researchers today. If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. 68-70. Swift appears to have taken the idea of two close (although not necessarily small) moons of Mars from Voltaire's novel Micromegos in which an WebThe Dogon understanding of astronomy was comparatively modern but has several known misconceptions - it entirely lines up with the European understanding as of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, before the discovery of relativity. The book presents the hypothesis that the Dogon people of Mali, in West Africa, preserve a tradition of contact with intelligent extraterrestrial beings from the Sirius star system. "Legends of the Dogon: belief in a long-solved It would appear that the Dogon had extensive knowledge of the Sirius star system before the outside world had a chance to give it to them. None were detected, That was not surprising since, judging from the age and energy of the stars in the Sirius system, astronomers believe it is unlikely that any earthlike planets could exist there long enough for life to emerge and develop. Schroder, D.J., et al. contact with some ugly, amphibious* For instance, the anthropologist Walter Van Beek, who studied the Dogon after Griaule and Dieterlen, found no evidence that the Dogon considered Sirius to be a double star and/or that astronomy was particularly important in their belief system. Webplanet earth. extraterrestrials, the Nommos, some 5,000 years ago. The review was indeed consequently modified in parts where Temple explained portions of his book I may have misinterpreted. In their original findings, Griaule and Deiterlen make no comment about the Dogon knowledge of Sirius B. (Temple claims missionaries didn't show up until 1949.) And as to good manners, Temple for his part has never answered any of my own personal letters asking for clarification and explanation of controversial points. The diagram is only convincing as a representation of Sirius B orbiting Sirius A when most of the original symbols are eliminated. by Philip Coppens. E. "Ancient Astronauts," in The Encyclopedia of the WebThe Dogon, the Nommos and Sirius B Artist's conception of the Dogon's legendary Nommos. the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. He made no secret of the fact that his intention was to redeem (Photo by John and Keturah. scientific equipment, so how could they get this knowledge? Encyclopedia Galactica,, Benest, D. and J. L. Duvent. WebRe: Dogon Sirius claim debunked - Graham Hancock Official Website Mysteries Taken from [ library.thinkquest.org] According to the Dogon priests, Sirius is orbited by a tiny secret star that they refer to as 'po', which traces an elliptical path around Sirius taking 50 years to This is true, but Sirius has about 25 times the luminosity of the Sun. WebThe Dogon, the Nommos and Sirius B Artist's conception of the Dogon's legendary Nommos. Further, "The fact that the Dogon do not talk of another planet with rings beyond Saturn [i.e., Uranus, whose rings were discovered in 1977--and the rings of Jupiter weren't discovered until after Sagan's book was written, although they would have been clearly visible to any arriving extraterrestrial spacecraft] suggests to me that their informants were European, not extraterrestrial." Also it would take a very good set of lenses to see Sirius B, which has an apparent magnitude of 8.44 and a separation from Sirius A of 10 arcseconds (0.3% of a 1 angle) under the best conditions. As anthropologists have known for a long time, primitive tribes have a remarkable talent for absorbing interesting new stories into their traditional mythology. You dont have to watch too many Fantasy Channel (formerly known as the History Channel) specials on ancient astronauts before youll be told about the primitive African Dogon of Mali and their advanced astronomical knowledge bestowed, of course, by extraterrestrials. From the findings of Van Beek and the authors of Ancient Mysteries, it is clear that Griaule himself was responsible for the creation of a modern myth; one which, in retrospect, has created such an industry and near-religious belief that the scope and intensity of it can hardly be fathomed. Such assimilation occurs most frequently when the subject is one of particular interest to a people -- as Sirius is to the Dogons. Second, while it is difficult to obtain precise locations of many archeological sites referred to in The Sirius Mystery, Temple himself shows a map that gives the location of Behdet (31.23 degE, 31.50 degN) and Thebes (32.63 degE, 25.70 degN). Seriously: The Dogon and Sirius? It's almost certainly a hoax. they were not told by beings from the star Sirius.". Our mysteries may be different but our questions are the same and we are no wiser. Modern astronomers have discovered the remains of the supernova Vela-X in a constellation which would have been visible in the low southern sky from Sumer. have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in The difference in brightness between Sirius A and B is a factor of 10,000! One of Temple's main van Beek, Walter E. A. Oberg does concede, however, that theories of recent acquisition are "entirely circumstantial" and have no foundation in documented evidence. To penetrate this supposed disguise (which might not be a disguise at all, other classical scholars maintain), Temple resorts to ancient puns, to hidden meanings, to "garbled versions" which he must amend to fit the theory, to the exchange of consonants in innocent-looking words, to similar-sounding words from WebThe population numbers between 400,000 and 800,000.. . terrestrial rather than extraterrestrial. I assumed, reasonably I.believe, that Temple meant to prove something by this chain of development, and I said it was a silly idea. To be specific they sound like the kinds of astronomical conclusions one might draw from studying the heavens through a small portable telescope. A second group claims the Dogon somehow discovered this on their own (although how this was accomplished is not explained). MANY SKEPTICS WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ONCE SOMETHING IS debunked, that will be the end of it. I wonder. Some pseudosciences such as homeopathy and free energy never die. pieces of evidence is the tribe's alleged knowledge of Sirius B, a companion to the star It has a mass of 2.35 times the mass of the Sun. In that case the Dogon (and everyone else) would have had little trouble seeing both stars then. They seem to have The other five are still seen as red but from the time of Arab astronomers to the present day Sirius has been blue-white. Scientists learn that the Dogon do not possess secret knowledge about the star Sirius and its companions. ), Another example: "The Dogon also mention a period of rotation of Sirius- Bone yearthis All agree, however, that they learned about the star from Griaule. Van Beek states that this creates a major problem for Griaules claims. Oberg also says that the Dogon were not an isolated tribe and that a member might have acquired knowledge about Sirius B while abroad and later passed it on to the tribe. The two anthropologists had lived among the Dogon tribe in Africa since 1931, and in 1946 Griaule was initiated into the religious secrets of the tribe. They dont have telescopes or other The two anthropologists had lived among the Dogon tribe in Africa since 1931, and in 1946 Griaule was initiated into the religious secrets of the tribe. "It does not!" Could Sirius B have been a red giant a few thousand years ago? The Dogon are believed to be of Egyptian decent and their astronomical lore goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. "Perhaps (Oberg) is unaware," Temple went on, "that the differential curvature of the earth variously distorts distances shown on maps. Predictions are often reinterpreted to fit any outcome, which makes them scientifically worthless but which can be claimed to verify the pseudo- scientific claims. The basic thesis is this: the Dogon (who live in the African nation of Mali, near the border with Burkina Faso) allegedly have long possessed arcane astronomical knowledge that should have been impossible for them to discover without modern telescopes. The Dogon are believed to be of Egyptian decent and their astronomical lore goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. by Philip Coppens. double star (Ortiz de Montellano).*. It is also possible to conclude that such a star could in no way be responsible for the flurry of sightings from the 1920s, it would be too faint and too close to Sirius A to have ever been seen by visual observers.[17]. [8][9], In 1978, astronomer Ian Ridpath observes, in an article in the Skeptical Inquirer, "The whole Dogon legend of Sirius and its companions are riddled with ambiguities, contradictions, and downright errors, at least if we try to interpret it literally. But if the error is real, it reflects on the only kind of hard, checkable, testable evidence Temple has offered for his theories. WebThe Dogon understanding of astronomy was comparatively modern but has several known misconceptions - it entirely lines up with the European understanding as of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, before the discovery of relativity. characteristics. Griaule and Dieterlen describe a world renovation ceremony, associated Figure 1. to be the best candidate evidence available today for man's past contact with advanced extraterrestrial civilization." The Skeptics Society is a non-profit, Sagan, Carl 1980. The line that Temple labeled Orbit of Sirius B is actually a figure the Dogon think of as a cosmic egg. The symbol for Sirius A is just one of many objects in the Dogon cosmos (C is the Sun of Women, F is the Star of Women, etc.). Sirius B without the need of a telescope because of their special eyesight If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. by Liam McDaid. The Nine also claim to be extraterrestrial beings from the star Sirius. There are no stable orbits around the less massive Sirius B which exceed three years. But that doesn't stop Temple. The Dogon are believed to be of Egyptian decent and their astronomical lore goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. by Philip Coppens. Dogon people are renowned for their knowledge about the Sirius Star system which dates back to 3200 BC, long before scientists discovered it in 1862 The traditional mythology of the Dogon is amazing. Temple does not argue that contact with an advanced civilization is the only way that the Dogon could have obtained what he understood to be accurate information on Sirius B, but he indicates that he personally finds the theory of alien contact more convincing. Bullard, Thomas. What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. But here's the rub: there is no archaeological evidence that the specific references to the twin hidden companions of Sirius are anywhere near that old. (2004). The Dogon are a people of about 100,000 who dwell in western Africa. Contents [ hide] 1 The Secret Knowledge And Wisdom Of The Dogon Tribe 2 Intricate Knowledge Of The Sirius Star System? The Dogon People Revisited.. Of those websites, over 400 had been updated within the last three months. ", Investigating After being surprised that an astromomy association would, after all this time, bother to publish such an article, I did a web search and found that in 1997 Robert Temple published a second edition of the book that started it all TheSirius Mystery in which he addressed none of the main criticisms that had been directed against the first edition, published in 1976. Qr*OJhiglNKc}{9GdA Mlt^+nR-Sp-f.y-`Pg##uAQDu&W&HM~IK{%uAM'bRV A\Z.4gAHU*j,H( rPaf@)2j He was told that fishlike creatures called the Nommo had come to Earth from Sirius to civilizes its people. things. Dogon people are renowned for their knowledge about the Sirius Star system which dates back to 3200 BC, long before scientists discovered it in 1862 The traditional mythology of the Dogon is amazing. Europeans too talked about the discovery of a third star in the Sirius system; later investigations, however, ruled out that possibility. claims about the antiquity of this information or of a connection with Obviously, no Earth-based species was flying to other stars back then! African thought. But it is apparent that Temple was not aware of Van Beeks devastating research. stream For more then 20 years, The Sirius Mystery has influenced speculation about the possibility that our forefathers came from the stars. Sirius figures prominently in the Dogon myths. It is important to look at the assumptions and implications of the claims made about the Dogon. Liam McDaid is Astronomy Coordinator and Professor of Astronomy at Sacramento City College. To quote James and Thorpe: As for Sirius B, only Griaules informants had ever heard of it. Was Griaule told by his informants what he wanted to believe; did he misinterpret the Dogon responses to his questions? The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. In 1967, Temple began work on the thesis that became The Sirius Mystery. (Buffalo, New York: Prometheus Books,1982), pp. (I must confess I've felt that way about some other people, tool). Temple sees the existence of Sirius C as a vindication of one of his claims, although it should be remembered that multiple star systems are common (like Alpha Centauri, with its three stars). the Sirius "Mystery" by Ian Ridpath, Skeptical Inquirer, Fall Contents [ hide] 1 The Secret Knowledge And Wisdom Of The Dogon Tribe 2 Intricate Knowledge Of The Sirius Star System? The Dogon were in fact aware of the fact that Sirius is a binary system (i.e. no conclusions of any kind." Using similar techniques other writers have "discovered" dozens of different, often contradictory "ancient secrets" about Atlantis, primitive Christianity, forgotten wisdom, ancient visitors and numerous other things. A teacher named Marjorie Fish tried to corroborate Hills map by matching it to the Sun and nearby stars like Tau Ceti and Zeta Reticuli 1 and 2. According to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. The Stone Age storytellers speak by their campfires of other people on other planets and of other mysteries. Griaule and Dieterlen's claims, to fit his fantastic story. Though Temples work was challenged, at its core lay the original anthropological study of the Dogon by Griaule and Dieterlen, who describe the secret knowledge of Sirius B and Sirius C in their own book The Pale Fox. "Nowhere in his 295 page book does Temple offer one specific statement from the Dogon to substantiate his ancient astronauts claim." Sagan has recounted numerous examples from Arizona and New Guinea -- and other scholars have noted similar instances -- of the rapid assimilation of new stories, songs and lore into the eclectic mythology of Stone Age peoples. As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. They observe that information about the odd invisible companion of Sirius had been widely published in Europe years before Europeans recorded the Dogon myths. One example: "If a Sirius-C is ever discovered and found to be a red dwarf, I will conclude that the Dogon information has been fully validated." some 8.6 light years from earth. WebAccording to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. amphibious aliens or telescopic vision due to melanin. Griaule, Marcel. Journalist and skeptic James Oberg collected claims concerning Dogon mythology in his 1982 book UFOs and Outer Space Mysteries. Europeans too believed that the "white dwarf' Sirius-B star was the heaviest thing in the universe, although in later years astronomers were to find [12] According to Oberg, the Dogons' astronomical information resembled the knowledge and speculations of late 1920s Europe, suggesting that the Dogon were influenced by European visitors before their mythology was recorded in the 1930s. Another claim: that in Egypt the oasis of Siwa and the ancient Nile City of Thebes are both equidistant from the shrine city of Behdet, in the delta -- and the same exact distance, too. Temple (The Sirius Mystery, St, Martin's Press, 1975) claims to be able to trace the Sirius-B myth back through Egyptian mythology to Sumerian mythology, thus establishing the certainty that the informants were extraterrestrials. Temple offered another line of reasoning. And finally, even if Sirius B had been a visible red giant a few thousand years ago, how would the Dogon know that Sirius B was still there after it became a white dwarf? WebThe Dogon understanding of astronomy was comparatively modern but has several known misconceptions - it entirely lines up with the European understanding as of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, before the discovery of relativity. One of the pieces of evidence Temple cites is a sand picture made by the Whew! Knowledge of the stars is not important Worshiped by ancient civilizations contact 5,000 years ago knowledge about the discovery of a third star in the and! A remarkable talent for absorbing interesting New stories into their traditional mythology can... The heavens through a small portable telescope 's explanations in his 1982 book UFOs and Outer mysteries. Misinterpret the Dogon ( and everyone else ) WOULD have had little trouble seeing both stars then about the Sirius! 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